The Real News Network Analyst Pepe Escobar talks to Professor Barnett R. Rubin of New York University, a leading expert on Afghanistan, about the relationships between the US, Afghanistan, Pakistan, the Taliban and NATO.

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Barnett R. Rubin, Director of Studies and Senior Fellow at New York University's Center on International Cooperation. Author of The Fragmentation of Afghanistan and The Search for Peace in Afghanistan. Served as an adviser to the Special Representative of the Secretary-General at the UN Talks on Afghanistan in Bonn in 2001.