Town Hall at Freddie Gray’s Gilmor Homes
TRNN producer Eddie Conway hosts a town hall in the Sandtown-Winchester neighborhood of Baltimore in the aftermath of Freddie Gray’s death.
EDDIE CONWAY, EXEC. PRODUCER, TRNN: All right. First, I’m Eddie Conway. I’m from The Real News, and I’m from the Coalition of Friends, which is an offshoot of Friend of a Friend. We’ve been coming down here for about a year. We had cookouts down here. We brought school supplies down here. We brought clothes down here. The Real News has supported us in buying some of the food that we bring down here. We want to have a continuing presence in this area. We want to help the people in the Gilmor Homes. And toward that end we decided to have a town hall meeting today to find out what your concerns are. To find out how we can work to help you as The Real News Network, and also as Friend of a Friend, and Coalition of Friends. We want to hear your opinions today.
And one of the things, for those that don’t know, that we’ve just recently done over in Bruce Court, we managed to put up two of those goal posts. With some of our friends.
That court has been down and broke for like, 18 years. And some people say it’s been down and broke their whole entire life. Young people needed that court to play in. We went to the city. We went to the head of the City Council, Jack Young. We went to the politician here, Nick Mosby. We went to the housing authority that runs this area. We went to their supervisors. And everywhere we went they turned us down or gave us a reason why that couldn’t happen. But some friends, some Quakers and some Coalition friends, and some other people, just came down here and did that work. And we’re going to be down here, we’re going to fix some other posts. But we’re also concerned about whatever else is happening down here that you have an interest in and how we can help.
So what we want to do is this. If you live down here, if you’re a resident of Gilmor Homes, okay, the mics are here for you. If you don’t live here, I would ask you to respect the residents and let them talk. So we don’t want outside talk. And so the first thing we’re going to do is we’re going to open it up for discussion. When we get finished this discussion we’ll put that moonbounce back up. We’re going to have hot dogs, hamburgers, et cetera. We’ve got toys for young people to play with.
My main concern right now, seriously, is what concerns you have. So do we have anybody that’s really here–okay. We got a person here. Share with us what you think.
SPEAKER: The main concern I have is about these big rats running around these holes around here, that we’ve been complaining about for them to fill up. You can’t sit, really sit out front in the summertime without the rats coming out of the holes, either chasing the kids or they’re running around in the lot, sick. We need to do something about that. That’s my main concern, of being a grandmother.
CONWAY: So one of the things that I did was I talked to Mr. Johnson, which is the manager of this whole housing area. And he says, and I–so I shared that with him, yesterday. And he said, we got a campaign. We come down here. We’re treating all the holes, et cetera. But yet I saw that rat yesterday in the middle of the day, at 1:30. Right? So that’s a concern. Is that a concern for anybody else? Anybody else? Yes. You don’t have to–well I mean, it’s up to you.
SPEAKER: I can stand up. I don’t have a problem.
CONWAY: Yes, okay. I heard that.
SPEAKER: All right, yeah. About the rats. But also, [inaud.] we have a roach problem, too, in the basement. That’s where the nests are. And we’ve been trying to get the extermination people to come out. They don’t even come out. They need to work on the basement, because that’s where all the nests is at. Down there. You can’t even open, sit on your step without a roach coming in your door.
SPEAKER: Like, they need to put the playground back out here for the kids to play in, because instead of them fighting–and they don’t have nothing to do with their time. They got [inaud.] all the way down the street to play on the playground to the swimming pool. They don’t have nothing around here for the kids to do in our court.
CONWAY: Was there a playground down here before?
SPEAKER: Yes there was. It was a play–.
SPEAKER: This was the playground. They changed it into a parking lot.
CONWAY: Somebody back in the back? Yes.
SPEAKER: Yes. My, my concerns are, just like she was saying about the playground–.
CONWAY: All right, can you hold it down so we can hear what the sister is saying?
SPEAKER: About the playground, we already know that, too. Everybody has that concern because it’s a lot of very small children. But that basement area, that’s what she’s speaking to, they need to clean that more. They don’t even clean it. They have water, it backs up. You smell it in your house. When you drink your water tastes like it’s nasty, you’ve got to boil it.
And then these holes where the cats go at. And not just that, you got people that’s feeding cats all over the place and wonder why we can’t get rid of the rats. Because they won’t even put the cat food in a cat bowl. You understand what I’m saying? You just can’t–that’s just, it’s a lot that needs to be done. If they can start cleaning that basement, if they can get that basement together, close the holes off, you understand, and instead of spaying the cats and bringing them back, just take them. Because we’re overpopulated, you feel me, because they go in the trash, they go everywhere. You understand? And that’s a big issue. That’s a very big issue.
CONWAY: Okay. Let me just ask the question. The basements, nobody is responsible for the basements?
SPEAKER: Mr. Johnson.
CONWAY: Johnson? The maintenance is responsible. Well, how often do they come out and look at the basement?
SPEAKER: I’ve been around here for 40 years. All right. I used to live right here in these projects. I chose to live on Mount Street because I didn’t want to leave the neighborhood. I lived in this, I lived right there at 45 for like, eight years. I lived over in 1609, Bruce Court Apartment 8 for 22 years. All right? It’s been this way since I was around here as a little boy. They come around here, they find one of–a couple of the basements they store stuff there. The other basements they do nothing to them. They don’t go down there to fumigate them, they don’t go down there to exterminate. They don’t do anything. All they do is come around here, go down, walk through, and come out. They don’t put no rat poison down, they don’t do nothing. Nothing.
And then what I heard, I had a friend. We, right here in Bruce Court, he lived in the basement. He lived in there for two years. And they never even put him out because he was there. You understand what I’m saying? So they don’t check the basements. They don’t care.
You know, they–these children, I watch all these children compared to us. This playground, it was a playground. It had a swimming pool in it. It had a little jungle gym. It had a monkeybars. They took it all down. Then it’s a [rack] right there. They won’t [moving] it. It’s been there, it’s been there since I was a little boy. I remember this right here, this was dirt. You hear what I’m saying?
CONWAY: Yeah, I hear you.
SPEAKER: They won’t do nothing. And anything that gets put up, they tear it down. And they tear–it don’t be the children. It be them. They come and take it down, and they say they don’t need it. That’s because they want to treat our kids like little monkeys. They–like they’re little gorilla babies. They’re not. They’re children. They deserve the same respect that all your [inaud.] children get. They don’t tear their neighborhoods down. They build, build, build, build. In our hood they tear it down. It gets torn down. We don’t need this, they don’t need that. Tear it down. Our kids–you look at statistics, they talk statistics. All right. Little white children in their neighborhood, they got skateboard rings. Playgrounds. Soft cushioned mats on their courts. Our children got the concrete jungle. Then they wonder why they’re so hard and so disrespectful. They don’t have nothing to respect. What the hell do they have? Nothing.
CONWAY: I hear you. I hear you.
SPEAKER: You know? They talk about the values around here. They want our kids to stop being violent. Give them some damn rec rooms. Let them be able to go play pool. Let them be able to go play basketball indoors like the little white kids. You know, they’ve got swimming pools for them. Our children don’t have nothing. Our children want to go to, to the pool down here, it costs them two dollars. How the hell they going to pay for it when most of their mothers don’t have it?
You know, this is crazy, man. This is why–my little granddaughter. She’s five years old. Scared of the police. She’s scared. If she see them, she runs. Why? Because the children know that they call them little bastards, tell them to get the hell away from them. This is how they talk to our children. Come on, y’all keep on talking about what’s wrong with the neighborhood. What’s wrong with the neighborhood is the people who are supposed to be taking care of the neighborhood. That’s what’s wrong with it. They’re not doing what they’re supposed to do. They treat our children bad. They treat the women bad. And then they treat us men like we’re goddamn animals. We’re not. We’re human beings. You know? We’re tired of it.
Now, this thing with [my little man] getting killed.
EDDIE CONWAY: Yeah.
SPEAKER: That, that blew my mind. But what’s really blowing my mind is–.
CONWAY: Are you talking about Freddie–are you talking about Freddie Gray?
CONWAY: All right.
SPEAKER: What’s really blowing my mind though is all the, all the things that they said about what he did and what he was doing, and what he should–no. He was doing what he wanted to do. He had the right to do what he want to do. They don’t have a right to come around here, slamming us down on the ground, beating us. Kicking us. I’ve watched them put cuffs on kids, slap them in the head. Kick them in their backside. It’s been going on for years. They did it to us when we were young. These kids talk, and for real for real, if a solution don’t come along, it’s going to be all out crazy. It’s going to be crazy. I’m really telling you. We just had to calm these kids down, but they wanted to do some things. We can’t keep calming them down. They’re not going to keep listening to us if they don’t see nothing happening. We need change. If they ain’t going to change, they need to get the hell out of the way.
SPEAKER: We are limited on [strings] around here. All our windows broken in our house, they even don’t stay up by themselves. They come out on the kids. Housing ain’t shit. Excuse my language though. But they want to put us out. Soon as our rent late they were coming through to take control, but they don’t even come and fix our stuff up.
SPEAKER: They’re a slumlord.
SPEAKER: They’re beyond–they’re worse than a slumlord.
SPEAKER: Because they got complexes.
SPEAKER: I agree with the brother said, and the young lady said about housing. Any time anything’s wrong with your house, you got to constantly put in complaint forms one after another, one after another, and never get anything done. But not pay that rent and see how quick they’ll be at your door talking about, you got to go. You know, and what the situation with the, the brother said, my man Freddie, man, that was ridiculous, man.
You know, me and the sister here, we were just talking about it. As I come up as a young boy, man, at that time we had plenty of things to do after school. Recreation centers. Parks, summer job. Youth entitlement. Eighteen–year-round jobs as long as you went to school and kept up good grades and kept your attendance good.
You know, these people down in City Hall talking about the money they got doing this and doing that, but in reality they’re not doing nothing. It’s ridiculous. They will close a library. They will close a recreation center. They will close anything and build up a jail just to house the young black brothers. You know, instead of helping them. But when it’s time for them to vote, they know how to come in your community. After that, you’re not going to see them again. If you call, go down there and do nothing. It don’t make sense.
We are the only, not being racist or nothing, but we are the only race that does not unite together as one. And we talking about the Caucasian man, the Asian man, the [inaud.], whatever. You know why they got–because they stick together. Let us get more than one another, we want to, we want to pull each other back down, man. We got to stick together as black African-Americans and do something about it. You know? Thanks for letting me speak.
CONWAY: All right. Back in the back. Okay, just back there first. Yes.
SPEAKER: Good afternoon. My name is Theresa. I had a spark caught fire in my apartment. And I called the maintenance man, and they sent them out there yesterday. But they only took the wall piece off and cleaned it out, and said that it was okay to use the stove again. But I’m afraid it’s, how’d my house get on fire? I’m not the only one who lives in that apartment. It’s other people’s, too. And I’m praying for my safety and my grandkids and the rest of them that lives in that apartment. But I’m just saying, they write about these children. Because these children need activity to get themselves going. If they can’t get themselves going today, they got their activity, do it. And everybody pull to stick together, so–I’m just, all I got to say.
CONWAY: Okay, all right.
SPEAKER: Just basically speaking on what everybody’s saying about the kids. You’d be amazed at these kids. They know how to play basketball. They want to do something like build a team. Do something for the kids. And like, speaking to what he said about the, the pool. If you go into, like, I’m not going to say white area, because I lived on [inaud.]. But if you go into those areas, when they got pools in the complex it’s free. When you live in a complex. So why should our community have to pay for a pool when we pay our rent? You see what I’m saying?
If you live in a complex, you get a pass, and you can go to the pool all day. These kids really need to do something like this. We got some kids that’s really positive and really want to do stuff, that can really make a difference. And some basketball players–my daughter want to play basketball. They get out here and make a goal. At the end of the day like, come on, we got to do better. Like, these kids, they want, they want help. They want to be safe. That’s all I got to say.
CONWAY: Okay, here. [Inaud.] Okay. All right, all right. All right.
SPEAKER: Yes. My concern is, these children, they are our future. And by them not having anything to do, they’re going to be another statistic. The police is going to try to harass them. Then Stephanie Rawlings-Blake, supposed to be the mayor, she supposed to help us, she don’t do nothing to help us. She’ll get on TV. Oh, I’m for the community. She is [driving] for us.
But I would like to see a lot of changes in here for our future. These kids are our future. And there’s a lot of talent runs around here. We got some [Jordan] kids, we got ones that paint. Some of them can sing. You know, let them be our future. When they got nothing to do, they’re going to be another statistic where the police is going to harass them. Thank you.
CONWAY: Okay. You know–she want to, she want to speak? She want to speak, David? Oh. Oh, where? Okay, let her speak first, and then you can go back on.
SPEAKER: I’d like to say something about this community. It’s–.
CONWAY: A little closer.
SPEAKER: I’d like to say something about this community. It’s very, it’s very, it’s very, it’s very stupid about these cops. But killing everybody’s kids out here, that is, is, it’s ridiculous. You’re killing somebody’s kid that you don’t, don’t have to kill. These kids out here just want to play and get around and do things for our community. But this, it’s time we need to cut it out. These kids want to learn. These kids want to go places. They want to have a lot of things to be around. Stephanie is trying to do her best. But she’s not doing all, all the community’s trying to do what she’s trying to do. But these cops need to stop harassing other people out here. That’s all I got to say.
CONWAY: All right. Wait a minute, let the guy–hold it, just–you hold one minute, sister. Let him, he got a mic. Go ahead.
SPEAKER: Yeah. Well, I hear y’all talking about y’all rent, and how they do y’all with y’all rent. But I’m going to do–I’m going to tell you what to do like my mother did, God rest her soul. When they wouldn’t come fix our stuff, she took her money to escrow. Stop giving them your money.
SPEAKER: A judge has to do an order for escrow.
SPEAKER: No they don’t.
SPEAKER: The [rental] court judge has to do–.
SPEAKER: No they don’t. You didn’t listen.
CONWAY: Wait a minute. Let him talk and then you can respond.
SPEAKER: As far as Stephanie, I’m not even going to talk about her. Because she’s a butt kisser. You hear me? She’s a female Uncle Tom. All she did is agree to whatever they want done.
They’re trying to–right now they’re on Mosby’s case. I love her. Do you hear me? Because she’s not afraid of them. She’s not kissing anybody’s butts. She’s not scared of them coming down on her. They’re talking about getting her taken off the cases. Why? Because she’s the only one who has the cojones to stand up to these people. She’s standing up for us. And in turn, we need to stand up for her. Don’t let them they can push her around. If we see them pushing, try to push her, we need to go ahead and start more [walks] for her. Let them know, leave her alone. Why? Because she cares about us? She’s a black woman, too. She sees what they’re doing to her black people. She’s not dumb or ignorant that anything that’s going on. She watched her own cousin get killed by police.
You understand what I’m saying? Her family’s police. She knows the right way a police officer’s supposed to act. These officers are not doing anything that they’re supposed to do. They say there are good police officers? Show me one. Please show me one. Because any officer that doesn’t stand up and open his mouth is a crooked officer, to me.
CONWAY: Okay. Let me let somebody else get on, though. Right there.
SPEAKER: Basically what I want to say is we need to take our own community back. We don’t need to go around and ask another person to build this, build that. As much as we can sit out here drinking, smoke our cigarettes and do whatever that we do, we could take that dollar or two and build our playground. Understand, it takes us, and then it takes them. You can’t just go–you just can’t go and point the finger and say he’s not doing this or they’re not doing this. They take it from us because we destroy it, too. Understand that? If you don’t play on it then what is it here for? For somebody to sit around there and get killed on it? Because that’s what our playgrounds do. You go into each playground in this neighborhood, somebody died there. Understand that, we need change, and it starts with us. We just can’t point the fingers no more.
Everybody just sit around and say, well, this happened, this happened, this happened. Well, what you doing? What are you doing to change this? Like, earlier today I went to a nice little gathering around the corner. And a lady came up there and said, am I my brother’s keeper? And the whole crowd should’ve said, yes I am. But because of our ignorance we look around, and we look and see who says yes. No, we can’t be ignorant no more. We cannot point the finger and say oh [woe], he’s the reason why I’m ignorant. No, you’re ignorant because you don’t take the time out and look at your community.
I’m part of this community. This is up top and I’m from down bottom. I lived here all my life. It’s not gonna change. Whenever some camera crew come in here and say, well you know, we need this, we need that. It’s still not gonna get done until we say that it needs to be done. Till we do something. That’s all I got to say.
CONWAY: Yeah, hey, hey, hey. I’ve got to give you a hand myself. For real. Okay, look. Look. Let’s–let’s, let’s switch gears a minute. What can we do to help? To, to report on what’s going down here? You know, I’ve heard a number of things. The Real News want to be able to cover at least some top stories from down here. Put it out there. Follow it up. Investigate it. Shoot it all over to the officials, so we can get something done. What kind of stories–I heard about the roaches. I heard about the rats, and I heard about the playground. What’s your other concerns? Is that, is that the three things we need to be looking at? Yeah.
SPEAKER: Our concern is, is that we gotta go–.
CONWAY: Get, get the mic. Hold the mic.
SPEAKER: My concern is when we going to get another supermarket? It takes us, it takes us about five, ten [hours] to go to the supermarket when all we have to do is walk down the street. We need another supermarket in our community.
CONWAY: A supermarket down here. Because it’s like a food desert with–.
SPEAKER: We got to go to the [shoppers].
CONWAY: Okay, wait. Where’s the mic? Wait a minute, here’s the mic.
SPEAKER: The market that we did have around there is about to become a Dollar General. They’re not putting another market around here.
CONWAY: A Dollar General. So they, what they’re saying is they want a market, though. They need a market.
SPEAKER: I know we need one, but that’s what they [great do] to that.
CONWAY: Well, that’s not good enough. We need to figure out how to get a market down in here. Hey. And–hey. It’s like the young man in the back said. The young man in the back said.
SPEAKER: That’s a woman.
SPEAKER: Young lady.
CONWAY: Young lady in the back, I’m sorry.
SPEAKER: That’s a young lady.
CONWAY: Excuse me, young lady in the back. Look, we need to think in terms of what we can do for ourself. That’s true. And if there’s no market here, got to start thinking in terms of a food co-op. What does that mean? Everybody join and chip in and pool that money and go to someplace like Costco or Sam’s Club, buy that stuff in bulk. Bring it back and share it for 50 percent off. That’s something we can do. We can do a food co-op. We just need to figure out–and that’s something maybe the Coalition of Friends can help y’all with.
SPEAKER: Okay, can I say something?
CONWAY: Yes, you may.
SPEAKER: I’ll just say, I understand about the food co-op and all that. But is it not a greater issue, or something that we can do as a community together, sticking as a whole to get something so that we could build a supermarket? So they could put us one, because they, you know. So that way they could put a supermarket there. Whether it be petitioning, everybody stick together, let their voice be heard.
Because that’s of great importance. You’ve got disabled people. You’ve got a lot of people that need assistance with something. So if we can put our John Hancock on something to bring or do something such as this for the community, you understand? So why we can’t put our heads together to see if we can petition and put it on paper so we can get that supermarket? Because that’s very essential. That’s something that we need. It’s a necessity. That is a necessity. We need–the food co-op, I understand that, what you’re saying, right? But everybody’s not people friendly. It’s good when we get together like this. Right, it’s a beautiful thing. Because we’re all sticking together. But at the end of the day when all this clear up, right, how many people committed to doing what we speaking about doing?
You understand? That’s what’s important. You feel me?
SPEAKER: Yeah. I’m feeling you.
SPEAKER: So to clean up the place, you put some trash cans out here. You see a piece of trash, you didn’t throw it, pick it up. Have a day to just clean up. You understand? I understand that. It starts with here. That’s all.
SPEAKER: I have something, I have something to say about the trash going around here. If you see a piece of trash, can you pick it up? Like, it’s just, it’s just wrong to just leave trash around. Just pick it up. That’s all I had to say. Just pick the trash up.
CONWAY: Okay. All right. You are–okay, he’s got something to say in here.
SPEAKER: Yeah. My name is Lawrence Taylor. And I’m saying–I’ve been a resident of Baltimore City, I basically live in Gilmor projects, but I come from Cherry Hill projects. I mean, this situation goes on in Baltimore City all–everywhere. It’s not just here. I’m just–it just so happened that something happened to bring y’all here and everybody else here. But people in our city is hurting. You know what I’m saying, though–the Mayor, everybody, I’m saying, though, they, they’re not recognizing what we need in our community. They wonder why our kids run around here and they’re building prisons to lock them up. But then sadly they have no activities for these kids to do. There’s no recreation centers.
You know what I mean, they said they’re going to get the lottery, they bring the lottery here to take more money away from the city. I’m saying though, the money supposed to have been for schools. I’m saying though there’s kids still don’t have computers in their schools in the projects. They still don’t have what they’re supposed to have. And they’re saying they don’t have money for this and money for that. I’m saying it’s a lot these kids are hurting. And I saw it, the way they was out here rioting. I’m saying though the police department, they have no respect for our people in Baltimore City. It’s not just here. Anywhere. I’m saying people all over the world get hurt by Baltimore–by police.
And I’m saying though, I have 13 kids. And I have raised them. And I’m saying though, man, it has not been the best–I have, my house has been raided nine times by Baltimore City policemen. And I’m saying though, they have friends. They have friends. They don’t find nothing. But it’s a house raid. When you do raids in my house, and you find a [roach], or you find–I’m saying, but the whole house get locked up. You know, man, so what they do is they hurt our kids. They lock my kids up, so therefore when they go and find a job, they can’t get a job because they got a criminal background. They got a record.
They take away from us. They start it off early. And that’s what they–that’s what they do. They can build prisons, but I’m saying though man, they don’t try to help our people. And I’m saying though, y’all say it’s a problem. One of the problem, the main problem is I just bought a 2015 Ford Fusion. I sat it outside in front of my house. The rats ate all the wires out of it. Cost me $400 bucks. Brand new car. I’m saying there’s a problem with the rats in the city. It’s a problem with them taking the trash.
I’m saying though man, they come in here and they say one day, one day a week trash pickup. This is a city. Look at all these people in this community. One day trash. How much trash can come out of your house? You got to set it somewhere for a whole week. You got to feed–you got to eat. I mean, so where do you put your trash until they come, one week? And that’s why we have a problem, we got a problem with roaches, we got a problem with rats. And we also have a problem because our kids don’t have nothing to do.
Know what I’m saying, though? I mean, hell. Excuse my language, but I should be out here one of these corners myself. I’m saying though, man, I could take a kid right now, I go buy him a pair of tennis–he will buy, he will do what I ask him to do. That’s how they get hooked up because they ain’t got nothing else to do. They get out of school, they don’t have nothing to do. And then I was coming up just like this brother [inaud.] said, when we was coming up, man, we had recreation centers. We had things to do. We had schools playing basketball leagues. Schools playing football leagues. Every, all season we had something to do. These kids have nothing to do. That’s all I have to say.
CONWAY: All right. Can somebody get the, the mic to the sister back there? Right. Her, in the back.
SPEAKER: Basically, we do have a voice. See, we is a majority. If they fail to tell us or not, we are a majority. When they go and vote, that is our voice right there. We can boycott anything. Boycott a white man’s store, boycott anything. Most of the time they take, they take away from us because they know that we’re not, we’re not able to do certain stuff. Yes the, yes the people do have skate parks in their community. But what do we got? Nothing. We have nothing because of what? They scared of us.
CONWAY: All right, I think–I think we need to wrap this up. I hear the music playing, I see the children–okay, we got–yeah. Let’s have–I’m sorry, go ahead.
SPEAKER: Yes. One thing I don’t understand, they–.
CONWAY: A little louder.
SPEAKER: One thing I don’t understand. They wonder why so many of our black men are on the corners. And 90 percent of this community has a record. Once they go through the jail and they do their time, I feel as though once they leave out that jail they shouldn’t have nothing to hold over their head. So once they go and get a job, it’s right there. Well, you’ve been locked up. So that’s going to hold you back. I feel as though if you’re not a murderer or a rapist or something serious, then don’t let it hold over your head. So our brothers have to take care of our kids. We got to make a living. And that’s the only way that we can find a solution to make ends meet. And it’s sad.
CONWAY: Okay. Thank you. All right look, I’m, I’m–you got something to say? All right, let’s let the sister say something there. Oh, no? All right. Well, go ahead. They don’t want to be on camera.
SPEAKER: I wanted to just talk about the–
SPEAKER: –every man for himself mentality around here now. When I grew up around here, right up here, 1676, and now I’m right here. You know, people was more like a family. You know, you could go to somebody’s house if you got some, if you got, [inaud.] a piece of bread. Or you know, whatever. Everybody looked out for each other’s kids. You know, the parents here now don’t accept responsibility for their kids, you know, nobody can say nothing to their kids if their kids is being disrespectful and all this stuff like that. You know, there’s no, there’s no come together. You know, and it’s like, if everybody–the kids know that. The kids are smart. So if they see the parents is at each other because nobody can correct their child, then they going, they’re going to play defense with it. You know, so it’s going always be people going to get killed. It’s never going to be no peace. Because they’re going to keep [pitting.]
SPEAKER: And the ones that grew up around here is the same ones that’s growing up to kill each other. They were once friends, they once grew up as family. They’re killing amongst–they, they’re killing amongst each other. They don’t have that family mentality around here no more.
CONWAY: Okay. What we’re going to do is we’re going to try to look into the supermarket thing. That’s a long shot. I think it’s probably easier for us to look into the food co-op thing. But we’re not discounting the supermarket thing. We’re definitely going to look into the rats. We’re going to look into the basement maintenance and see what’s going on. And we’ll actually do some work here about the court. But we’re going to find out what’s wrong with that rec center and why that rec center can’t be open over there, and we’re going to focus on getting that rec center open. And in the meanwhile we’ll see what we can put here in this area.
That rec center over there is open? They said it’s not open. The one over there? Is it open? You think so? It’s two–.
All right. Okay. But thanks–thanks for joining us. We’re going to put the moonbounces back up. We got some refreshments. Enjoy yourselves. All right. Thank you.
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