transcriptHassan GhaniFebruary 15th 2003 saw the largest protest in British history. Like millions of others across the world, the British public said no to the invasion of Iraq. Their government ignored them.So two million people marched on Britainâs cities, supported by millions more. But Tony Blair still took this country to war on whatâs now apparent was flawed, or even fraudulent, intelligence. Since then Britain, much like the US, has entered an era of continuous warfare.Tariq Ali, Writer / FilmmakerâIt pains me when good people, especially in the United States, who were hostile to wars when Bush was waging them, become passive when Obama wages them.Hassan GhaniToday, in a more complex world, and with a so called war on terror that has spread to many more fronts, Britainâs anti-war movement is taking stock.Tariq Ali, Writer / FilmmakerâEffectively what we noticed in the United States today is imperial continuity. More drone attacks on Pakistan and Afghanistan and Yemen and Somalia under Obama than there were under Bush. The President of the United States has now the power, legal power, to order the execution of any American citizen, leave alone citizens from the rest of the world. That is the world we live in.âHassan GhaniSo despite boasting the support of millions, has the anti-war movement essentially failed in its objectives of stopping war, or even affecting change in foreign policy.Jeremy CorbynâI think we did mobilize a lot of people who became very well educated as a result of it. I think we did probably do a lot to stop any direct attack taking place on Iran at that time, or indeed since that time. Of course we didnât succeed in stopping the wars, but thatâs not a reason to go away, itâs every reason to redouble our efforts and say to people âthere is a different alternative way of doing thingsâ. We donât have to arm ourselves to the teeth, we donât have to have global military reach, we donât have to steal other peopleâs raw materials and resources, we donât have to run round the world on behalf of corporate entities. We can instead be a force for moral good in the world by respecting international law and seeking to relate to people rather than the way weâve increasingly got involved in wars largely on behalf of the United States.I canât promise success, but I can say: doing nothing is not an option.âHassan GhaniIt is true however, that while there is no public appetite for further wars abroad, and opposition to Britainâs ongoing military action in Afghanistan has grown, the numbers at public protests have shrunk in recent years.Owen Jones, Journalist, The IndependentâThere is certainly that opposition. The reality is that at the same time weâre going through a huge economic crisis where often peopleâs priorities are bread and butter issues like housing, jobs, and everyday issues. I think Western foreign policy is something most British people are actually concerned about, and they do oppose those interventions, including the occupation of Afghanistan. But at the same time, at the end of the day, if youâre struggling to heat your home or feed your kids, then there are other priorities.âHassan GhaniPerhaps one of the most effective tools going forward for the anti-war movement is to highlight the link between the cost of wars abroad and cuts in public spending at home, building ties with the UKâs growing anti-austerity movement.Owen Jones, Journalist, The IndependentâThe government can always afford to shell out money for wars in Afghanistan, but cuts here where they say these services are not affordable. It just shows that actually we should fighting, instead of waging war on other people we should actually be defending our services here instead.âJohn Rees, Counterfire / Stop the War CoalitionâAs long as this system shows us the face of war and austerity, we will show in opposition an anti-war movement and an anti-austerity movement, which brings together, in unity, the only kind of forces that working people really have - their strength in numbers and their capacity to organise. That is what this movement has, in the end, always been about. The struggle for success in the working class movement is the struggle for unity. Without unity we cannot win. In unity we can take down the war mongers and the profiteers.âHassan GhaniThere were also calls to do more to counter the increasing use of drone attacks, which often result in substantial civilian deaths, a tactic which anti-war campaigners argue is counter-productive, and will ultimately increase the risk of terrorism at home.John Rees, Counterfire / Stop the War CoalitionâLetâs be clear. The drone wars are about making sure that there are no body bags of American and British and European troops coming back from the theatres of war. Thatâs what the drone wars are about. Now if they move to drone wars, we move after the drone wars.âVictoria Brittain, Journalist / WriterâWhat the Obama administration has done, worse than Bush, is sanitised killing. Thatâs what drones are, that you have men at computers away in America killing people in Pakistan, in Yemen, in Somalia. And the fact that we know, now, that the American President personally sanctifies most of these killings, ticks off the names, including of Americans, I think is an incredibly alienating process. Everybody I know who knows about Yemen and Pakistan says that is creating new terrorists all the time, it would be strange if it wasnât.âHassan GhaniSuccessive British governments have denied that UK foreign policy is one of the root causes of terrorism, despite the 2005 London underground train bombers specifically citing it as their motivation.Mohammad Sidique Khan, 7/7 BomberâYour democratically elected governments continuously perpetrate atrocities against my people all over the world, and your support of them makes you directly responsible.âHassan GhaniIt later also emerged that intelligence officials had warned of blowback from Iraq prior to the invasion.Also being discussed in London was the fresh push for consolidating western interests in Africa. Activist Explo Nani-Kofi for years oversaw the campaign against proxy wars in Africa, and says todayâs conflict in Mali is the result of a bigger picture of decades old western interference in the region, and a scramble to exploit its resources.Explo Nani-Kofi, Kilombo Centre for Civil Society and African Self-Determination, GhanaâBecause China was also coming in and trying to give, what appeared to be, more favourable conditions to the African countries, it threatened the West. So the West has to go in to ensure that the control they have over these resources over the years, since the Berlin conference, is not lost.We have to democratise our states, to strengthen the grassroots control on governments and direction of policy. And if we have grassroots organisation control, then we would be able to defend the state.âHassan GhaniThere were several other issues also under the spotlight, but one central to many of them was the westâs continued support for Israel.Manuel Hassassian, Palestinian Authorityâs Rep to UKâWe do understand that the crux of the problem in the Middle East today is the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, and all other problems are transient, theyâre not going to stay there, we know that. When is the international community going to understand that they cannot the victimiser and the victim on equal footing, when they talk about this conflict.âHassan GhaniLooking back at Iraq and 2003, Sami Ramadani opposed the regime of Saddam Hussain. But he also opposed the invasion. Ten years on, he says the US and the UK have left a poisonous legacy behind. And looking forwards, he warns others seeking to overthrow despotic regimes not to allow their struggle to be hijacked by western interests.Sami Ramadani, Senior Lecturer, London Metropolitan UniversityâI was an exile of Saddamâs regime. We struggled against his regime for 35 years of Baâathist rule. But the question is always posed: would intervention and imperialist backed change bring anything good for the people, would it improve the situation? No. My view was, and the view of most Iraqis overwhelmingly, was no. Saddamâs regime is a terrible dictatorship, but this alternative of backing US-led intervention would bring an even bigger disaster to the Iraqi people. And similarly if that war is to be launched on Iran, and so on. And similarly their attempt to divert the struggle of the Syrian people for democracy into darker channels.So you have a choice, in a sense. You stay opposed to dictatorship, you stay with your people demanding democracy, but if you donât link that to opposition to imperialist intervention then the struggle will be led into a bind alley.âHassan Ghani, for the Real News, London.