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July 10, 2008

Stalling on impeachment

Veterans For Peace in a dramatic confrontation with Chairman Conyers over his indecision on impeachment

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Since June 9, when Rep. Kucinich's introduced 35 articles of impeachment, the articles have remained shelved in the House Judiciary Committee. Chairman Conyers has the ability to bring the articles to a vote in the committee, but he is undecided on a course of action. In a June meeting with Veterans For Peace, Rep. Conyers promised to present his decision on impeachment in early July. However, Conyers failed to present such as decision during a meeting held with Veterans For Peace (VFP) on Wednesday, July 9. Members of VFP believe that Conyers is deploying stall tactics and that he has no intention of moving forward with impeachment. Conyers, once again, has promised to present his decision in a meeting planned for July 25.


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insider58 2008-07-11

Conyer's stalling makes me wonder what the Bush cronies have on him and other democrats. No one deserves impeachment more than GW Bush. Yes, the veteran was right. The nation is bleeding internally from the lawlessness of the Bush administration. What on Gawd's earth do the democrats need in order to do the right thing ... a brick *hithouse to fall on them? Is Conyer's plan to ignore it hoping it will all go away? Democrats have been in the majority since '06 and have not stopped the lawlessness of Bush and his cronies. Surely, they will make excuses as to why they cannot retroactively prosecute Bush and his cronies after Bush has left office. The young veteran was also correct when he said the democrats are doing more damage to themselves by refusing to impeach rather actually impeaching Bush. We have entered an age of right is wrong, up is down, bad is good and the whole attitude is making this country and its citizens dizzy.

chabuka 2008-07-10

I don't suffer from indecision!..I know!....find a competent veteran (preferably a Dem) amongst you, and run him/her against Conyers...let the scared old man go home and take his Viagra and a nap

reggie3.0 2008-07-10

Pontius Conyers has turned into a contemptible windbag.

Max Fortres 2008-07-10

How about impeaching Conyers and Pelosi, then impeaching Bush and Cheney. Derelection of duty and failing to uphold their oath of office are grounds for impeachment. Kukinich came forth with 35 articles, and next time he will have 70. Lying to the American public is impeachable and a crime. I believe someone came up with 983 lies to the American people. SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS

president 2008-07-10

Good job indeed. Let the people know about the secret powers that pressure senators into changing their minds.

PeterJ 2008-07-10

Conyers is scared, like all the rest. It's obvious that those who have the power to "fix" this, won't. Why? because they have money to lose and even though they have more money than anyone could possibly use they have to have more. Like a junkie "chasing the Dragon", it's a disease and they have it so badly that it outweighs all of their better judgement. Their greed even outweighs their fear. Well, if I were them, I'd be afraid. Not of god or whoever they "pay off" to assure their salvation but of their fellow man walking the earth. The poor in this country, fifth, sixth or more generation welfare have been missing out for so long that they've lost the desperation, the fight. But the working, middle class, whose debt has or is catching up and are losing homes, families, posessions, hope and sanity are beginning to feel overwhelmed with that desperation. The Establishment feels safe, far from the reach of these people but they're not. They're right outside the doors of t

burningice17 2008-07-10

Good job on this one. Keep covering what the others ignore and your viewers value.

Transcript

JOHN CONYERS, US CONGRESSMAN (D-MI): When will the impeachment proceedings against Vice President Richard B. Cheney commence? Answer: I don't know.

MATTHEW PALEVSKY, JOURNALIST, TRNN: Veterans for Peace were caught off guard by Chairman Conyers' reticence in regards to impeachment. On June 11, two days after Congressman Kucinich introduced 35 articles of impeachment for President Bush, Veterans For Peace met with Conyers, asking him to pass the articles through his judiciary committee. Conyers told Veterans For Peace that he would unveil his plan to them at their next meeting—this meeting—which was held on July 9.

CONYERS: When will preparation of all papers for the impeachment of President W. Bush [sic] be completed? None have been started.

PALEVSKY: While Conyers didn't say that he would move forward with impeachment, he didn't write it off, either. In his recent book The Constitution in Crisis, Conyers justified the legal grounds for impeachment, and during the meeting he emphasized the importance of his decision.

CONYERS: So I see the consequences as being historic. I see them as having an immediate effect upon the body politic and America. I see them as shaping how impeachments will be held in the future in years to come.

PALEVSKY: Conyers offered only circular logic to justify dragging his feet on impeachment.

(OFF CAMERA): What is holding you back from beginning impeachment proceedings at this point?

CONYERS: Well, as I have said before, what's holding me back is that I haven't decided to do them. So I think there are enormous consequences involved in this decision, and that's why I haven't arrived at one yet. I don't plan to give any excuse. I haven't made up my mind. How can I tell you why I'm not going to impeachment? I came here, and the first thing out of my mouth was "I haven't decided."

PALEVSKY: Many in the room were outraged at what they saw as stall tactics and a refusal to act. Adam Kokesh, an Iraq veteran, described his frustration by drawing a parallel to his experience in Fallujah.

ADAM KOKESH, IRAQ VETERAN, ANTIWAR ACTIVIST: My team was called to assist in the medevac to get him to the field hospital at Camp ["dih-KA-toe-min"]. He was on a stretcher on the Humvee in front of me, and I watched the corpsman treating the external wound that frightened [inaudible] panic on the road. And when we got there, I was there to help unload him and carry him in on a stretcher, and he was moaning and writhing in pain, barely conscious, and he flailed his arm off the stretcher. And as I put it back on and put it by his side, I told him, "You made it. You're going to be alright. We got you here. You're going to be okay." And he died only minutes later from the internal bleeding. And I get the feeling that what you're doing and what the Democratic Party is doing is telling this country, as we are being bled dry by tyrants, that we're just going to be okay, that the only promises we get from Democrats are Band-Aids over these far deeper wounds than anyone is willing to really admit to publicly. I hear one of the arguments against impeachment is that it would harm the Democrats in the upcoming elections. And I hope that you realize, because you didn't communicate this when I asked you the question, that there are real consequences to not impeaching that are far, far worse than not having Democrats in Congress and the Senate or a Democrat in the White House. You said you've made thousands of decisions, many of them very respectable, many of them very courageous, but by your own admission it seems what's holding you back from this one is your own indecision. You have said that I might be surprised by your plans. You haven't put forth any, and, frankly, I'm not surprised.

PALEVSKY: After attendees voiced their frustration for over an hour, Conyers addressed the anger in the room.

CONYERS: You were an angry and disillusioned group when I first met you. And you may continue to be.

PALEVSKY: And they were.

ELLIOTT ADAMS, VETERANS FOR PEACE, PRESIDENT: I would have been open to anything that told them, "Move the process ahead," told us where we were going. We didn't get an answer to any question. As terms of impeachment, we don't know when it's going to happen. We don't know what obstacles there are to impeachment. We don't know what we can do. We don't know what he's going to do. We don't know anything. He didn't tell us anything at all.

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