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  March 11, 2016

William Binney: Blowing the Whistle on the NSA.

Robert Scheer sits down with former National Security Agency official turned whistle-blower William Binney to discuss the fight between Apple and the US government over access to Americans' cell phone data and why he believes there can be too much intelligence.


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Robert Scheer is the editor-in-chief of Truthdig. He's also a professor at the University of Southern California's Annenberg School for Communication and Journalism, and host of the KCRW podcast Scheer Intelligence. For decades, Bob was the national correspondent, and then columnist, for the Los Angeles Times. He's the author of many books, including The Great American Stickup, The Pornography of Power, and most recently They Know Everything About You: How Data-Collecting Corporations and Snooping Government Agencies Are Destroying Democracy.



William Binney spent over 30 years at the National Security Agency as a high ranked official and left in 2002 after being criticizing the agency's system for collecting data on Americans. In their conversation, Binney explains why he thinks the government is overreaching with Apple in its attempt to access data from the cell phones of the San Bernardino shooters. Binney talks about how the NSA is now overwhelmed with data, doesn't need nearly what it is collecting, and how there are other ways to get the data it is looking for without invading most Americans' privacy. Binney also discusses the ThinThread data collection system he helped create while at the NSA, which ended prematurely, and why he believes the agency chose instead to implement the more expensive and bulky Trailblazer, later widely considered to be a failure.

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